Here’s a great question from a podcast listener:
“I am currently starting a small business building furniture and have a goal to replace my income in 18 months so I can work from home and spend more time with my two young children. My question to you is, I currently have a day job that makes $24/hour and would like to know if I should use that same rate when calculating my time and cost for a product or should I start out at something lower like $15 till I gain more of a following? Kindest Regards,” Jessica
Okay, Jessica let’s just start with the math. $24/hr at 40 hours is $960 a week or $50,000 a year. So let’s say you want to continue to make $1000 a week. As an entrepreneur you will never be doing what you do best for 40 hours. There are supplies to order, sales calls to be made, emails to be answered, financial records to be handled, and other administrative duties that need to be covered. You should base your projections on 20-25 hours a week of actually building furniture. So to keep at your current income you should think in terms of generating $50 an hour when you’ve actually creating something to sell.
There’s a lot of “furniture” that will never justify that kind of compensation. If you’re going to make tables or chairs that someone can get at IKEA – you’ll never be able to compete. But if you make one-of-a-kind amazing pieces, then that’s not unreasonable. What makes you remarkable? What kind of piece are you going to make that a buyer could not find anywhere else in the world?
Don’t think in terms of hourly – think in terms of completed project. People are not buying your time – they are buying your unique talent and your years of experience in developing that talent.
You may have seen the carved eagle we call Aristotle I have on the approach to my office. Terry Brasher came out, set up her scaffolding on Monday morning and completed that amazing piece on Tuesday evening. Essentially two days. We did not discuss price in advance as she really didn’t know how complicated it would be. And that was fine – I already knew I was going to pay her whatever she thought was reasonable. I certainly didn’t keep track of hours. I was simply looking for a completed masterpiece.
When she was finished I asked what I owed her, and she suggested $1000, to which I readily agreed. If we look at the time, that’s 16 hours which would be $62.50 an hour. But the hours were not the issue – the completed project was the focus. And frankly, I thought that was a great deal for what I got. Basically she just carves wood – if she sat on the square in Franklin on Saturday morning carving wooden whistles or making bird houses she might make $5 an hour. But in creating artistic masterpieces she separates herself from wood carvers or furniture builders.
Dayton Brown has done some work for me as well. He’s a furniture builder. But his pieces are stunning works of art – not just functional furniture. The kind you show to your friends and hand down to your children.
My advice – Don’t think lower – think higher. Then create “furniture” that is remarkable and you can increase your income.
I agree, the hourly rate is very dependent on the value you provide. I started my business accepting work at a lower hourly rate for simple grants, but have been able to almost triple my hourly rate for the grants I currently write, as they tend to be very complex. She can start at a lower hourly rate, but as she grows her business and gains success, she should be able to increase her hourly rate by focusing in on higher value work, and by using testimonials and feedback from happy clients. Great post Dan!
Thank you Jessica and Dan. Great post! We went through the same math process earlier. When we started the baking business my wife thought we’ll mainly sell cakes and cookies. It’s true that there are amazing birthday cakes sold for hundreds of dollars (e.g. Ace of Cakes, Cake Boss) but the volume in our area is not that high and my wife is not in their league just yet. We therefore price cakes and cookies based on a low hourly wage, but we also developed workshops that generate higher income in comparison. My advise to Jessica would be to mix commonly sold items with unique items. Both lines of products will feed each other in market exposure to ensure constant employment and higher than average income.
when making something unique , like a one of kind furniture piece. Sell it as art and never as just furniture. Art has no
Hourly rate attached to it, Art is a piece of your heart which will command a higher price.
Great reminder! Anxious to see what Dayton Brown has done for the Sanctuary as I bet his work is gorgeous.