Why Dave Ramsey Didn’t Hire Me

Dan Miller —  November 29, 2012 — 40 Comments
This is a guest post by Jared Latigo. Jared is a husband, father and Christ-follower who believes we were all put here for an incredible purpose in life. He believes each person has been entrusted by God to fulfill a particular goal and that we are not serving Him or the people we are supposed to reach in the world if we are not doing that. You can read his blog at JaredLatigo.com or follow him on twitter @JaredLatigo. If you’d like to guest post on this blog, check out the guidelines here.

About a year ago I decided to put in an application to work for Dave Ramsey. I figured it was a long shot, but hey, you’ll never know if you don’t try, right?

So I created a little micro-website for my resume and submitted the application. One to Watch Marked Person in Organizational ChartBeing a web designer, this was pretty easy for me and lined up with the job position quite well. It also helped to set me apart.

Roughly a week later, I got an email from them wanting to setup that interview, which then turned into two, three and so forth. In case you don’t know, they do about 14 interviews on average before they hire someone.

So finally, after a couple months of the madness, they flew me and my wife up to Tennessee and I had several interviews in person that next day.

Now, you have to understand something. We are huge Dave Ramsey fans. Like, part of his tribe for sure and everyone we talked to knew this was perfect for us! Our families were happy and sad at the same time because it meant us moving 11 hours away…but nevertheless, it was perfect.

In fact, all the tiny little details had worked out right down to where we would be able to rent an apartment about a mile from the office. We were completely beside ourselves and ready for the go-ahead.

But then something changed. What I thought would be the best part of the interview process for me, clearly was not. I wasn’t the right person for that particular seat on their bus. And we were crushed.

So I searched myself for answers. I prayed for answers. I went over every one of the 7 or so interviews I had that day for any indication as to why they decided I wasn’t right. I mean, over the phone they were ecstatic to have me! So what was the problem?

Fast forward a year.

I kid you not, it was just the other day that I discovered why I wasn’t hired. Or at least one of the reasons.

I didn’t clarify WHY I wanted to work there. Or, as Simon Sinek would put it, I didn’t Start With Why.

And what that means is simply this. I wanted to work there. I dreamed of working there. I wanted to be a part of helping change people’s entire lives not only from a financial perspective, but also their marriage, job and spiritual lives. But I did not communicate that as clearly as I should have.

I truly believe that the interviews went very well, even after looking at it like this. But they could have gone better if it was centered around what I truly believe about Dave Ramsey and his company. Wanting to help people should have been my focus and I believe there would be a much different story to tell here.

Regardless of what we do in life, we have to start with why we’re doing it. You can take that to a career level, a marriage level and even a spiritual level. No one can understand your heart for the matter if you don’t clearly communicate why you do it.

So what opportunities are you missing because you’re not clearly communicating your why? Or do you believe this is essential to help people better understand you?

  • http://about.me/colinmichael Colin Michael

    I’m very thankful that I had spent the better part of a year reading and listening to Dan Miller and others in the 48 Days tribe before I began the process of seeking to join the ministry of Answers in Genesis. Without the clarity about my calling and my desire to help and serve others I would not have been a good candidate for this position. Because I had the understanding of what was important to me and what was important to the ministry, I was able to see how the two would mesh and become one, improving both. So, in spite of the fact that I did not meet all of the posted qualifications for the position, I know why I’m here.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Very cool Colin! I love that ministry, they really have some incredible materials! Thanks for reading!

  • http://www.lincolnparks.com Lincoln Parks

    I have learned that the things we want the most sometimes don’t happen for reasons I have no clue about. It may be growth, it may be a learning step, like you writing this blog now a year or so later. You finally got why and it was a Learning experience. This has happened so many times to me that I know that clearly and effectively sharing your message, story, and WHY is important in anything that you do. Great post, and I believe greater things will be opening up for you. Far greater than anyone person can see.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Thanks Lincoln. Love to be able to share experiences and see people connect with them. I think it’s the best part of writing. Take care!

  • James R. Toole

    Great post Mr. Latigo. We never know the path he might take us.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Very true indeed sir. :D

      • ab

        I am a firm believer – if you do not ask, you won’t know / get.
        If it is still your desire, I would not hesitate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429623083 Erin Casey

    Wow, how frustrating. I can imagine being in the same exact spot–not wanting to oversell myself, not wanting to scare them off with my enthusiasm, and then missing out because of that hesitation. The good news is, we learn from every experience and by sharing your experience, others have the opportunity to learn from you. Congrats on the success you’ve enjoyed and for not letting this dissappointment stop you. Don’t hold back!

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Yeah for sure. It was a pretty awesome experience and wouldn’t trade it in, that’s for sure!

  • http://www.tammyhelfrich.com/ Tammy Helfrich

    Great post, Jared. I think this is so true. People always respond better when they understand the why behind the what. I also believe we can learn from these experiences and use them to propel us towards living our best life. I’m excited to see what’s in store for you in the days ahead!

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Thanks Tammy! Love being able to share experiences…it helps us all grow!

  • http://www.jmlalonde.com Joe Lalonde

    Jared, congrats on guesting post on Dan’s blog. It’s great to see you here.

    There’s been things I’ve missed out on, working with terrific people because I didn’t explain the why I wanted to work with them. I’m working on improving this aspect and hope I’m getting better. Time will tell.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Yeah, it’s hard to remember sometimes but very important. Thanks for stopping by!

  • http://www.ontargetcoach.com/ Brent Pittman

    Great self reflection and a reminder to always examine the underlying “why”.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Definitely!

  • http://kimanziconstable.com/ kimanzi constable

    I missed this message completely when my first book came out. all I could see was money and getting away from a job that I hated, why? What would I do and why did I want to be an author?
    Once I figured that out things have fallen in place :) Great post buddy, you’re an inspiration!

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Thanks man, glad to see you’ve applied it as well :D

  • ab

    I wonder what Dave would say after reading this? Hopefully, YOU’RE HIRED!!! You should forward this to Dave!!! Best Wishes – anthony

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Haha, thanks! Not sure about that :D

  • http://bit.ly/Oz6PFf Barry Kerzner

    There is so much we try to figure out that just doesn’t have any logic to it for us other than it was just not our time for that particular event to occur. Great post!

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Thanks and very true. Sometimes we’ll never know though!

  • http://www.leavingconformitycoaching.com/ Randy Crane

    Excellent post & reminder, Jared. I think we most often tend to apply this line of thought (if we apply it at all) is to career, but I really like your point that it applies to *all* areas.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Yeah certainly. I’ve found it to be effective when “trying” to reason with my son on things. Good catch :D

  • Drew Tewell

    Good stuff Jared! The why is critical. Also, good story. By the way, it was good talking to you yesterday. Take care.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Yeah you too! C ya!

  • Shawn

    Thanks for sharing this!

    Your post reminds me of two things. First, the way every child asks their parents “why? why? why? why? why?”
    The second thing is the most miserable experience of my professional life, working for a company whose “why” shifted around their money goals. Then I realized I had prioritized the same way as an employee.

    oops.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Ouch yeah that can be a problem. At least you realized and corrected!

  • http://www.livebeyondawesome.com/ Jen McDonough “The Iron Jen”

    Jared,
    OH MY GOSH, I AM SO IMPRESSED! WOW! That is an incredible accomplishment to get to where you did! Holy smokes, everyone wants to work for Dave’s team – congrats on getting to where you did. I think it was Jon Acuff, author of Quitter, who talked about his journey on getting to where he was to where he is on Dave’s team. Sometimes our paths may not always go the way we want them to, however, by taking intentional action we WILL find success.

    LOVE how you used this as a learning opportunity.

    One of the steps Kent Julian suggests in his Speak It Forward Bootcamp was writing out a personal mission statement – not some vanilla goody two shoes statement, but a real heartfelt personal statement. THIS WAS MUCH HARDER than I thought it would be. It required sole searching digging as to the real belief of WHY I am striving towards living out my life the way I am which has helped in me mapping out my goals of getting to this point.

    Jared, thank you for this post! It was a reminder of how the WHY is so important when mapping out goals in all areas of my life.
    Live Beyond Awesome!
    Jen
    Twitter: @TheIronJen

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Glad you enjoyed it Jen! I love your message, you’ve definitely honed your WHY quite well!

  • http://twitter.com/VerSutherland Veronica Sutherland

    Jared thanks for sharing. You have sent me off on a path to find my “why”. I have been asking the wrong whys. Why am I having the experiences I have? Why are people the way they are? But I need to ask why do I do the things I do or want to do? Thanks.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      You got it :D

  • http://www.chaplainmike.com/ Mike Hansen

    So here’s a question (not having read any comments below): Do you believe God meant for you not to work there? A year later, do you see any benefit, as it fits into God’s will, to remaining where you were? I’ve been through a similar experience, and wondered what you thought.

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Absolutely. I wasn’t supposed to be there because while my WHY hasn’t changed…my WHAT has. I was applying for a designer position. After doing some soul searching I’ve found that isn’t want I want to do for the rest of my life. I want to impact people’s lives in other ways. Thanks for asking this though. It is very important. I wrote a post on my blog called “Thank you Dave Ramsey for NOT hiring me” You can read it here if you wish. http://jaredlatigo.com/thank-you-dave-ramsey-for-not-hiring-me/

      Take care!

  • http://sparkvoice.wordpress.com/ DS

    Your post reminds me of something one of my early English teachers taught me about writing, that I’ve applied in several other areas:
    1) Tell them what your going to tell them.
    2) Tell them.
    3) Tell them what you told them.

    I believe “the why” leads to more disputes and misunderstandings. Sometimes we don’t know the why, sometimes we assume others know the why, and sometimes we just don’t communicate the why. It would be a big help if we did.

    Thanks for sharing a personal story of a moment of “failure” and what you’ve learned from it. “Failure is a price we pay to achieve success.” Maxwell

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Yes…that is a very good point. Our sunday school leader teaches exactly like that. it helps me to remember what I just learned too.

  • http://www.CharlesSpecht.com/ Charles Specht

    Jared, this is great stuff. God’s will for our life sometimes seems elusive, but it is the best plan…always.

    We can never be too sure of our “why?”

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      So true Charles!

  • http://twitter.com/DeafMom Karen Putz

    Thanks for the reminder of the importance of the “why.” This has me reflecting more on my own “whys.” Thanks for sharing, Jared!

    • http://JaredLatigo.com/ Jared Latigo

      Glad you enjoyed it! :D

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